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The Montauk Project is a conspiracy theory surrounding the Camp Hero military base in Montauk, Long Island, New York. Rumors of kidnappings, human experiments including those with psychic abilities, mind control, alien communication, and time travel are intertwined in the lore of this mysterious base.
Kelvin Morrison 0:02
Welcome to mystery number six strap in as we delve into the mysterious and try to find the truth behind the absurd.
Lei White 0:43
Hello and welcome back. How is everybody doing today?
Kelvin Morrison 0:50
I'm doing outstanding.
Lei White 0:52
Great. I wanted to start today's episode by giving a special shout out to one of our very early supporters. From day one. My friend Sandy has been great. Awesome. I think she was our first listener. Hello, Sandy. So we love you, girl. Thank you so much. And we would love if anybody else would like to go to our show. And any of the podcasts that you listen to leave us a review. Go to our website and leave us a comment. Maybe talk about what you'd like to hear us talk about.
Kelvin Morrison 1:29
We could use that. Yeah, suggestions are welcome.
Lei White 1:33
So, again, welcome. I am your host 11.
Kelvin Morrison 1:41
And I am Mike, pining for elevens love.
Lei White 1:48
How very cute. And today, we bring you the case of the Montauk Project. Now, if you haven't listened to the previous episode, go and do that before continuing to listen to this episode. You absolutely have to because this is not going to make any sense if you do not. To recap, though, we discussed the popular conspiracy theory, the Philadelphia Experiment. The conspiracy is that in 1943, the Navy was experimenting with making their ships invisible, and they managed to make the USS Eldridge disappear completely and reappear, causing great harm to the people aboard the ship. Then a man named Al Bielek in 1990, claimed to have been aboard that ship during the experiment and travelled through time along with his brother. They went forward in time and back again. Then back again again. It was a lot of traveling. Yes. Having a great many adventures along the way. We found out some interesting things that happened in the future. But yeah, go back and listen to the previous episode because you can hear all about it for yourself. We left by like at the moment when he was approached by the US government to come to work on the top secret Montauk Project.
Kelvin Morrison 3:18
The Montauk Project. Yes.
Lei White 3:21
So at the time Bielek was working in California. But because he was considered so important by the government. They allowed him to get to and from work using a super secret network of high speed trains that run underneath our country. Now, mind you, he was working in California. They wanted him back in New York, at the Montauk Project. So the super amazing secret train allowed him to work a normal job during the day in California. And moonlight in Montauk for the government
Kelvin Morrison 4:02
3000 miles a day. No problem.
Lei White 4:04
No problem. Isn't what you want to find out. We'll want to hear why there's it's not a problem. Why is that? Well, not only were those super fast secret trains super fast. But eventually this quote unquote time tunnel. The trains used to move superduper fast, was perfected and then it was just a matter of Bielek teleporting back and forth. Obviously, obviously, yeah. So I would love that teleport
Kelvin Morrison 4:39
machine to save so much time and gas. Oh, yeah. Let's bury now my god gas.
Lei White 4:48
So he claims that throughout the 70s He was the program director for the psychics who worked in Montauk because he was so important in Powerful. He was even given the opportunity to take some pretty nifty trips.
Kelvin Morrison 5:06
Yes, the perks are amazing. Yeah, for
Lei White 5:09
instance, he went to Mars. Would you like to go to Mars pay? Oh, yeah. He not only went once, but several times, just just a day trip. Yeah. Right when you can teleport everywhere. And he remembers other trips he took with teams to a research station, and 100,000 BC. What were they researching? In 100,000? BC?
Kelvin Morrison 5:37
Well, no. I don't know what there was the research? I don't know. Well, we mammas
Lei White 5:43
Yeah. I mean, he also visited some other random planets to get canisters filled with light. You know, actual light, light, light. And then other canisters filled with dark energy. Okay, okay. And he also went to the year 6037.
Kelvin Morrison 6:09
So he didn't just stop it.
Lei White 6:11
27 Whatever it was. No, we talked about that in the last episode. Very interesting things. But he also went to the year 6037. So that's pretty amazing. Pretty amazing. I mean, according to what happened in 2130, something, I mean, we already had floating city, we get we, and most of our coastlines were gone. So really, by 6037 I don't know how there's a planet left. But he went there and came back. So clearly there was. So of course, once he went public, with his very exciting adventures, the government disavowed him. They didn't even try to shut him up. They just let him continue to lecture about his experiences. Not worried at all about him releasing all their secrets.
Kelvin Morrison 7:02
Because who would believe them? Right? Right. Who would believe him? Apparently, quite a bit of people,
Lei White 7:07
quite a bit of people, but not us. But yeah, because he was, you know, he had all the information, they just didn't care. They just continued to let him lecture write books, talk to people, it didn't matter. Because he was just letting on all their secrets, and it was fine. Um, in the last episode, I spoke about him believing that he was Edward Cameron, that his name was actually Edward Cameron. And that he was he believed that he was well over 100 years old. But at the same time, he's also Al Bielek. living a different life, but in the same timeline, it's very strange.
Kelvin Morrison 7:50
Yes. But the reincarnated time baby. Yes,
Lei White 7:54
the reincarnated time baby that's
Kelvin Morrison 7:55
right to a theater near you.
Lei White 7:57
Yeah. And I feel like, because there's another character in all this called Duncan Cameron, who he claims his brother that we spoke about, but I feel like he just kinda was like, this Dunkin character started also talking about his experiences, and this and that. And he's like, You know what, be really cool. If I was actually your brother. And now we have this amazing story where we did all this stuff together.
Kelvin Morrison 8:26
Duncan acknowledged him as his brother. Yeah. All right.
Lei White 8:31
There's even a video. There's just so much. There's so many videos, we're about to talk about some other guy named Preston. There's a video with Preston Duncan, and al, slash Edward, walking through Montauk and talking about this is where we kept the children. And this is where we did this. And this is where we did that they were all together. So yes, so he believed he was Edward and Al at the same time. And it's very strange, but just try to keep up. That's all I can say. So he believes that he wasn't harmed or stopped, because of his time traveling experience, experiences locked him into this timeline. And if they messed with him in any way that would disrupt the balance from prior time traveling experiments. So that's his reason as to why the government isn't stopping him.
Kelvin Morrison 9:29
So they have to let him tell all the secrets they have to.
Lei White 9:32
Yeah, that's his way of explaining why the government doesn't even acknowledge him.
Kelvin Morrison 9:38
Nothing convenient about that. Nothing at all.
Lei White 9:42
So if any of this sounds familiar to you, well, that's because a lot of it was from a 1984 movie called the Philadelphia Experiment, where a couple sailors aboard the USS Eldridge are flung forward through time. But Bielek story does differ quite a bit, but he had six years between 1984. And when the movie came out in 1990, when he came forward with a story, he had those six years to really flush out a great science fiction story after being inspired by that movie, right? So it just an amazing mind. Imagination, let's say, yes. I wish somebody would actually write this as a story. While we're. But do you know what I mean? Like, take his stories.
Kelvin Morrison 10:34
And when they're doing reboots, left and right, Let's Reboot the movie. With all of his details.
Lei White 10:39
There you go. Yeah, that's perfect. Who would play doesn't lead character who would play him?
Kelvin Morrison 10:45
I don't know. That's a good time to think about that. Yeah.
Lei White 10:49
We do have pictures, if you want to see those in any pictures from any episodes up on the website. But yeah, they. They kind of look the part. You know what I mean? I don't know if that's just me. After reading the story, and then seeing the person just call you up. Yeah. That's obvious.
Kelvin Morrison 11:11
You look like what I thought you'd look like, right?
Lei White 11:15
But yeah, so he had those six years to make the story even better. He died in 2011. In Mexico. Our byalex birth certificate is dated March 31 1927. But whether he was born on that date or not, depends on how much of our story you're willing to believe. He has always maintained that his real identity is that of Edward Cameron, son of a career naval officer, and that he had been regressed back in time to that I have a nine month old baby in California in December 1927, where he was raised as our Bielek by Arthur he and Albertina
Kelvin Morrison 11:59
Lei White 12:03
What did you call him?
Kelvin Morrison 12:04
The reincarnated time baby. Yes.
Lei White 12:07
So he has lived two different lives on the same timeline? Sort of. Right. So buy like stories circulated and gain the attention of Preston Nichols. Okay. Preston Nichols would brief be friend Bielek and tell the Cameron brothers and his own story in the Montauk Project experiments in time. He wrote that novel? Well, he claims it's true. He wrote it and a series of novel
Kelvin Morrison 12:45
claims is true science is kind of it's fiction.
Lei White 12:47
Yes. So we're gonna call it science fiction. Right? There's a whole series, but the first one is the Montauk Project experiments in time. So Nichols writes of his time working at Camp hero on the secret experiments. Now, that is what they call. That's where Montauk Project took place called Camp hero. So, specifically, during the 1970s, he claimed he worked with biallelic, and something called the Montauk chair, which is a piece of furniture that use electromagnetics to amplify amplify psychic powers. So they're saying there's literally a chair in the middle of a room. And there's all these things in this room hooked up. A lot of it's very technical, and I don't know anything about but it's electronics and things happening that somehow hone in on the psychic power of the person sitting in the chair.
Kelvin Morrison 13:48
So this is where you get the the 11 experiments.
Lei White 13:52
Yes. So he claims that the person sitting in the chair if they were good enough, who Duncan Cameron ends up being this person who is like the master psychic that sits in this chair, and whatever he thinks will come into existence. He can think things into existence. One of them being what we would call the Demogorgon. Right, from Stranger Things. Yes. And baby want to talk a little bit about Stranger Things.
Kelvin Morrison 14:30
We all know Stranger Things we love the kids from Stranger Things and this entire Montauk Project. All of this centers around the inspiration for Stranger Things and Stranger Things actually toned it down. Oh, a whole lot. Because all of this stuff is beyond bizarre.
Lei White 14:57
Yeah. So Anyway, somebody could sit in this chair, mainly Duncan Cameron, our flash Edwards brother. And he could think things into existence because of all the power that was happening.
Kelvin Morrison 15:13
And can he do any of this stuff now? Well, it would be dead. Oh, he I don't know about Duncan's dead?
Lei White 15:22
I don't know. Actually. I am. I didn't look that up to tell you the truth.
Kelvin Morrison 15:28
He could settle the whole thing right now.
Lei White 15:30
Yes, that's right. Yeah, you know, that would be the easiest way. So, theorists claim that the experiments were conducted between 1971 and 1983. rumors began circulating in the early 80s. And Preston B. Nichols attempted to legitimize the claims in his series of books. So there was, you know, little rumors here and there, especially in the area. Because this Camp hero eventually shut down. Nobody really knew what was going on. I don't think they took enough time to try and find out because maybe the government didn't let us know until after it was closed down. But you do know why it was built. It was built to be like an early warning system for enemy ships coming in. Many people claim to have been abducted and experimented on as children. As many as 70 Children are said to have been kidnapped. Homeless people were also abducted and subjected to huge amounts of electromagnetic radiation.
Kelvin Morrison 16:40
And all of these people went missing and there's no, no cause for alarm. No, no, no. Okay.
Lei White 16:48
Yeah. In the area. There was no huge. You know, I'm sure people went missing here and there, but 70 Children,
Kelvin Morrison 16:55
right. pretty noticeable. Yeah.
Lei White 16:58
So I don't know what they were doing. Maybe they were 70 homeless children that nobody cared about. But there was not a big deal made about this at any time. The Philadelphia Experiment is not only the so called predecessor, but is also inadvertently tied to the experiment. In the event. Suppose, as the event supposedly caused the USS Eldridge to travel ahead in time, allowing crew members to step through a portal to Camp hero during the Montauk Project, and the experiments happening there.
Kelvin Morrison 17:35
So not only did they ask him to be a part of the Montauk Project, he also traveled in time to the Montauk Project specifically, yes. That Al, that yeah, that's
Lei White 17:53
out. Yeah. So, okay, so, um, or about August 12 1983, the time travel project at Camp hero, interlocked in hyperspace, with the original Rainbow project back in 1943. Rainbow project is what preceded the Philadelphia Experiment. And is also it's all interwoven. There's, you know, basically, what they're saying here is that what happened in August of 1983 in Philadelphia, cause like this hyperspace interlocking thing between Camp hero and the USS Eldridge. Right. And so, when that happened, the people on the ship were drawn into hyperspace and trapped there, and two men are by luck and Duncan Cameron, both claimed to have leapt from the deck of the Eldridge while it was in hyperspace, and ended up after a period of severe disorientation at Camp hero in the year 1983. Yeah. Are we still following along? Yes. Okay. Staff from the Camp hero site traveled to the USS Eldridge and shut down the generators, causing the ship to return to Philadelphia Navy Yard in 1943. And causing the time travel or the time tunnel travel to collapse. So, if you remember from our last episode, Al and Duncan, were told to go back to 1943 and shut down the experiment causing that time travel right that time tunnel to collapse. So I believe the staff from the camp To cite their worth, where they were referring to here are Al and duck in, right? According to
Kelvin Morrison 20:07
Al, and duck, right?
Lei White 20:09
So it's all a big loop. But all in all, supposedly the experiment was shut down, caused that time tunnel to collapse. And they were no longer connected in hyperspace between 1943 and 1983.
Kelvin Morrison 20:31
Closing off the big time loop fit by Al during his baby term traveling.
Lei White 20:39
Yes, right. Now, I'm going to have you read off the list of experiments that are in the Preston Nichols series of books. Okay, because these are great. And we just have to hear them. So take it away.
Kelvin Morrison 20:59
So they were filmmakers brought to the facility to bring in work on a project that would culminate with the moon landing hoax. Okay, so
Lei White 21:09
they are saying that the moon landing was a hoax. And that footage was filmed at the Montauk
Kelvin Morrison 21:20
that camp Camp hero during the Montauk Project. So I'm assuming Stanley Kubrick, right was in on his because that's part of the moon landing hoax. So Right. In addition to that, the military personnel in charge were in fact cultist who bought they built a 50 foot ziggurat or step pyramid, kind of like the Mayan pyramids that you see not like the smooth Egyptian wins built out of titanium for some esoteric reason.
Lei White 21:54
Now, I bet you that was had something to do with the psychic chair
Kelvin Morrison 21:58
will probably some kind of conduit for your psychic ability, right. They did the early work on inventing the internet. So the This podcast is brought to you by how Bally and and and because we would not have the internet if it weren't for this project,
Lei White 22:20
apparently. According to Preston Nichols book. Yeah. According
Kelvin Morrison 22:24
to his book, Nazi scientists from Operation Paperclip were involved in some of the experiments.
Lei White 22:31
Okay, wait a minute. You mean, the paperclip that we used to get on word? Yes, Operation Paperclip. Wow. Yeah. So now, I'm creating my own conspiracy theory here. And the Nazis created
Kelvin Morrison 22:49
Microsoft Word. All right.
Lei White 22:52
I probably shouldn't put that out there. Okay.
Kelvin Morrison 22:57
I'm the head bio engineering projects that created The Jersey Devil. So if you're in Jersey, and you've seen sightings of The Jersey Devil think the Montauk Project, of course, black helicopters were manufactured and flown. They're, like, top secret stealth men and black type things.
Lei White 23:22
I mean, that would be one of the most believable things. Oh,
Kelvin Morrison 23:26
yeah. I mean, that's pretty standard for like military stuff. Right. But, uh, get this Nikola Tesla, whose death was faked in a conspiracy? was the chief director of operations. What? Yes,
Lei White 23:44
when when it Nikola Tesla whose death was faked in a conspiracy? Mm hmm. So there's a conspiracy inside this conspiracy theory? Yes. Was the chief director of operations at the base, he
Kelvin Morrison 23:56
was running the whole thing behind all of it, okay. And then there were massive psychological experiments and the use of enormous subliminal messages and projects and the creation of a men and black core to confuse and frighten the public. So wait a minute. Will Smith tonally Jones? Actual men and black
Lei White 24:25
were invented there to confuse and frighten the public? Yes. Why would they want to do that? Oh, maths psychological experiments?
Kelvin Morrison 24:35
Yeah. Just to, I guess, collect data. Wow.
Lei White 24:41
Maybe this is why the government didn't shut down now.
Kelvin Morrison 24:44
I'm talking. I mean, cuz
Lei White 24:47
that plays into their plan.
Kelvin Morrison 24:49
Exactly. They're still collecting data. I mean, people still think they're experiments going on here. So and here's the here's this anchor right here. the AIDS virus was created at the Montauk Project, the AIDS virus AIDS virus,
Lei White 25:11
the Demogorgon that came through Duncan Cameron's mind thought that was manifested. Did He create the did he bring it from another dimension?
Kelvin Morrison 25:23
This? I mean, it could have been a byproduct of the experiments they were doing on people and
Lei White 25:28
Kelvin Morrison 25:31
aids brought to you by the Montauk Project. So awesome. Yeah. Just a few of the many things that this
Lei White 25:41
Preston Nichols claims to have happened,
Kelvin Morrison 25:46
right. And I heard some things about them time traveling and changing events in history and even having an influence on the Civil War. And oh, yeah, meeting Jesus, Himself. So so
Lei White 26:05
they time traveled? I mean, I believe it because they, I mean, they went to 2600. They went back to 100,000 BC. So meeting Jesus on the way that makes sense. So they met Jesus. What was the other one? You just
Kelvin Morrison 26:22
said? Well, the had an influence on the outcome of the Civil War.
Lei White 26:27
All right. So originally, the South was supposed to win the Civil War. Mm hmm. And they were like, no, no, that's not happening. We need to go back. Make the Northwind. And that's the world we live in today. Yes. They were very helpful. People very, very.
Kelvin Morrison 26:45
I mean, I'm grateful you, right?
Lei White 26:50
I mean, so if we didn't have their amazing influence on world history, we could be in a very different place right now.
Kelvin Morrison 27:01
Exactly. They were very humble. They're heroes. I mean,
Lei White 27:05
Humble Heroes. They made up all this shit. So they made themselves that important.
Kelvin Morrison 27:15
That's why the government can't stop them because they're too important to the timeline. The most influential men in all of human history.
Lei White 27:26
I mean, they have to be. So the author's meaning Preston Nichols. And he wrote the books with a guy named Peter Moon, which was a pseudonym. The authors have never officially declared their books to be fiction, and have encouraged speculation. That is true on their publishers website. Excuse me, they encourage speculation that it is true on their publishers website. They publish a newsletter called the pulse which continues to extend the myth and promise promises new books, believers in the project regularly visit Camp hero. So everybody who believes in these books as truth, and others, like them, always, you know, continue to go and visit Camp hero, which is the state park this is state park now. And it's been a state park for since like, 1984, I think. I know they opened it in the 80s. Sometimes it's sometime is a state park. So again, you can go there yourself, go check it out. The massive a en FPS 35 radar, which is more than 13 yards wide, and weighs 70 to 90 tons, sitting atop an 80 foot high blast resistant concrete bunker was built in the 1960s. And this is the radar that we see in Stranger Things, right. And it's pretty famous. It's pretty massive. That still stands today.
Kelvin Morrison 29:07
And it does look pretty ominous. It does.
Lei White 29:10
But it was built in the 1960s as part of a coastal defense for New York City during an era when airplane bombers were considered a primary threat.
Kelvin Morrison 29:19
That's what they want you to think though.
Lei White 29:23
Right? The early computers of this era were massive in size and housed in that bunker. Both the radar and the computers quickly became obsolete. Although the radars were dismantled elsewhere, the Montauk Raider was subjected to an intense petition drive by boaters on the crowded Long Island Sound, who thought it was a more obvious landmark than the nearby Montauk lighthouse. So it has been preserved as a historical site and at this point will never be taken down.
Kelvin Morrison 29:58
Between all the history happened there. Yeah, it's the most historical the history all.
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